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 Post subject: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2018 17:07 
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I'm thinking, instead of carefully treating all sides and edges of 1/4" lauan and painting it satin white as I go through this portlight replacement (original stuff has a little rot), I might go with 1/4" birch veneer and a satin finish. Too much clash with the rest of the wood? I was thinking white up there just to lighten things up. 7/16ths coach thickness. No wonder I read where someone was watching their traveler "pulse" up and down.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2018 06:23 
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I have seen a couple interiors where the teak ply was painted white and I think itís an improvement. Iíll bet birch ply would look very nice. Going over the teak ply will be a challenge because of the lower trim. Replacing the teak ply will be a big job as well. I think I read that are already replacing the ports so the space will be ready for whatever you decide.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2018 07:08 
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If I were replacing ports, white formica would get apartment applied to the sides of the coach house. A little bit of dark trim is enough for me.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 25 Oct 2018 08:30 
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I've looked around the usual places for white (satin, preferably) formica. I think I have to order simply because the crap they sell at Homedep and Lowe's is substandard. Thing is, the existing ply is 1/4" and of course the formica is very thin, requiring some thinking to accommodate/replace the 1/4" thickness. Which is what made me consider sealing/painting 1/4" ply instead. Newfound ports are ordered with all the bells and whistles, including the teak trim pieces. Richard was very helpful with everything, being very careful to make sure I got the right length fasteners.

On another subject, in the past I used Cetol (satin, original) on the cabin sole (jeez, almost 20 years ago) and was very happy with the result and wear. This sole isn't the teak and holly, but rather solid pieces of ply. I also used Cetol interior and exterior and thought it was the easiest thing to deal with in the Caribbean sun. I did Bristol Marine Varnish one year, very carefully, on the exterior teak, and it was a complete pain in the ass, gone in 1 year. Back to Cetol. Is this stuff still the same formula and results? I remember it was kinda orangey, but it's durability was great.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 27 Oct 2018 08:34 
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Cetol still makes the orangie stuff, but they also have a Natural that looks more like teak and a Clear gloss to put over it if you want something closer to a varnished look.

I used both in the past, but now Epifanes has a Wood finish that can be applied without sanding between coats (if within 3 days). That makes it as easy as Cetol to apply and it looks just like high gloss Epifanes varnish. We slapped it on with 2" chip brushes and it flowed out beautifully.

I recently saw a new version of Epifanes Wood finish that allows 2 coats per day (without sanding) for fast build. When I redo the teak rails this winter, I'm going to put a coat of regular Epifanes high gloss on top of it all for durability ..


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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 02 Nov 2018 12:30 
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We had some damaged wood around the old leaky windows and pondered making the sides white in some way. Decided just to see if we could save the teak at the last minute and sure glad we did. The damaged wood sanded up just fine and with a high gloss varnish it came out stunning!!! With the led lights in the headliner the cabin has been totally transformed into a light filled masterpiece, absolutely gorgeous. A dimmer allows perfect control whist consuming minimal power.


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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 03 Nov 2018 09:32 
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Beautiful ! Did you have to strip, clean and brighten the teak before varnish? Mine is dark from years of teak oil and I found the cleaner/brightener brings it back to fresh natural teak.

I love the LED lights in the coach roof - are they dimmable? Its one of the features in newer boats I think would be worth bring on board.

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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2018 01:42 
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jClubley wrote:
We had some damaged wood around the old leaky windows and pondered making the sides white in some way. Decided just to see if we could save the teak at the last minute and sure glad we did. The damaged wood sanded up just fine and with a high gloss varnish it came out stunning!!! With the led lights in the headliner the cabin has been totally transformed into a light filled masterpiece, absolutely gorgeous. A dimmer allows perfect control whist consuming minimal power.


That looks super good! I'd be very interested to hear about the process, cleaner and the varnish you used. Our teak is very dark from years of oil as well. Would love to brighten it up.


 
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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2018 18:19 
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I too would like to hear what 'Jclubley' went through to produce such fine results. The teak cleaner I've used in the past with good results is Semco Teak Cleaner which comes in two parts: Part 1 is Caustic Soda (sodium hydroxide) and Part 2 is Phosphoric acid.

It is possible to buy these ingredients in raw form cheap and dilute, but unless cleaning teak for a living, Semco isn't too expensive and a little goes a long way. (Take the usual safety precautions).

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 Post subject: Re: Birch inside coach house?
PostPosted: 06 May 2019 11:09 
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Sorry, have not checked back here in awhile.
To answer the question 'how we achieved the results':

All we did was sand it... nothing else.
Had to be somewhat careful not sand thru the veneer however there is enough to get to 'new' teak. Probably sanded heavier than most would feel comfortable as we did not think we could save it. There was a lot of sawdust.

After that we vanished with 'Interlux Schooner Varnish'. High Gloss.
The pictures only have 2 coats, more coats and it would look even better!

The rest of the cabin had already been lightened and varnished by the PO. We cleaned it up some and applied a couple coats of the same Interlux varnish. Not sure of the process the PO used to lighten it.

As you can see it came out great.
The stainless windows and the dimmerable LEDs really set it off the varnished wood. Its a big job but absolutely transforms the cabin.


 
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